Over at HotAir, Jazz Shaw has a good piece up about Herman Cain’s seemingly wavering stances on abortion:

posted at 6:15 pm on October 23, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

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One of the most recent – and certainly most toxic – examples has been his series of puzzling answers on the abortion question. And let’s be honest here… who could possibly consider running for the Republican presidential nomination and not know that one was coming? I’ve heard the defenses being put forward, but frankly none of them make as much sense as the conclusion that Cain simply wasn’t ready for the question. Let’s go back once again and look at the precise answer he originally gave to Piers Morgan. (Emphasis mine for this particular question.)

No, it comes down to is, it’s not the government’s role — or anybody else’s role — to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you’re not talking about that big a number. So what I’m saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president. Not some politician. Not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn’t try to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive decision.

I’m sorry, but it doesn’t get much more clear than that. It’s a choice. It’s not the government’s business. But the excrement hit the fan, so to speak, and he wound up putting the campaign car in reverse and flooring the gas. First he tried to claim he didn’t fully understand the question, implying that he was only saying that he wouldn’t try to directly prevent abortions by executive fiat as president. (A silly argument, requiring us to believe the thought it was possible to do so or that the reporter and the voting public might have thought so.) Then he said that it should be illegal, but some families might choose to break the law anyway. (How it becomes illegal without the government being involved is something of a puzzler.) And now he’s saying that he would push for a constitutional amendment to make it illegal and would use the POTUS bully pulpit to push legislation to ban it. Sure sounds like the government being involved to me.

When commenting on the story over at HotAir, I noted:

Frankly I agree with Cain’s original statement. I know EXACTLY where he’s coming from on this issue, because it’s the same place I occupy on this issue.

Let’s see if I can illustrate this and ‘un-cloudy’ it for at least a few folks. (I know the ‘I’d rather die than open my mind to another stance on this’ group will still hate me, but, oh well — I’m not here to be liked by people I pretty much think are hypocritical when it comes to wanting small govt, but also want govt to intrude into private lives when THEY want them to).

Ok…the illustration. Very simple here. Please follow along:

If we don’t like the idea of govt intruding into our lives when it comes to making “end of life” decisions, then how can we logically hold the same stance about the abortion issue when it comes to rape, incest, life of the mother? Both scenarios — end of life, and abortion due to rape, incest, life of the mother — deal with extremely personal life decisions that should be made ONLY by individuals and their families. Both are choices. Both deal with life and death. If it’s ok for individuals to essentially CHOOSE to take their own lives when they wish to do so because of extreme circumstances, how does that differ from abortion due to rape/incest/life of mother (also extreme circumstances)??
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Cain is absolutely correct — it SHOULDN’T be a function of govt to intrude into their private lives in situations like that. If we allow that…in any extreme circumstance, on any level…We are opening a ‘Pandora’s Box’ upon ourselves, and we shall get what we may or may not have asked for.

Talismen on October 23, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Ultimately, this came down to Cain not being ready for the answer. His back-tracking may cost him a few points, but, I think he’s still going to maintain his lead, by and large.

Paul Ryan lets out a dirty little secret…Not only about Obama, but liberalism in general:

“What we’re getting is a commitment to division from the president here. We’re getting basically a strategy to divide, to speak to people as if they’re stuck in some class and they’re stuck in their station in life and the government’s new role is to help cope with it. That is so inherently contrary to what we’re about in this country.”

He’s dead-on with this analysis.

But, this goes beyond the President. This notion is the heart of liberalism itself. It robs nearly every form of precious Liberty from certain sections of society, and if those people truly understood what is going on, and how they are being manipulated by that ideology…The wheels just might come off that already broken-down bus.

The liberal ideology cannot exist…Cannot thrive…Without sections of society being convinced that we do indeed have a “class” system, and that those within the “lower” classes shouldn’t ever expect to excel beyond their “station”, no matter how hard they work to rise up and out of it. “Don’t worry — Government will take care of you. Just relax. We’ll go after the rich for you! We’ll punish them! We’ll recover your money for you! We’ll take back the money that was taken from you…The money that is rightfully yours! Don’t worry. We’re here for you!”

What a load of grade-A prime bullshit.

Let’s use an example to illustrate this lunacy:
Say you’re one of those “lower class” citizens, who happens to get a raise, or a promotion, or a better job. Ok…More money coming in now, so you call the welfare office and tell them you won’t be needing their help any longer. Good. Now comes tax time. When all the numbers are totaled up, you owe a HUGE amount of tax to Uncle Sam. “What the hell is going on?!” you say to your tax professional. They inform you that because you are making more money, your tax bill has gone up. You say to yourself “but, I’m only making a few thousand dollars more per year! I was able to get off welfare, and now I can take care of myself…so I get punished for that?!”

Yep, Sparky…You do.

See, liberalism is all about maintaining those “classes” within our society. Why? Because it ensures votes for those who preach “help and support” to those “in need”. Think about it…If no one is “in need”, liberalism cannot survive. Now, don’t get me wrong…There ARE those truly in need: The mentally & physically challenged…Those who’ve lost their jobs through no fault of their own…Those who fall on ‘hard-times’…And many senior citizens. But, there are those within our society that have been brain-washed, and feel the easy way out (a.k.a. welfare of all kinds) is just fine with them. They don’t have to work. They can wake up when they want to…Go to bed when they want to. And Uncle Sam will take care of them, just enough to ‘dangle the carrot’, and keep ‘em coming back for more. It’s a vicious cycle…Sometimes generational, and it is one of the most ethically debilitating politically psychotic games ever to be forced upon our citizenry. It leaches from the mind and soul the drive to be self-sufficient, and in its place, leaves utter dependency upon government for everything from food & shelter, to clothing & communications. Government literally becomes the ‘sugar daddy’, for those who COULD work, but simply choose not to. I wonder…Do these people realize just how much they are being toyed with? Do they realize what pawns they are to this ideology? Could they be convinced that they ARE capable of taking care of themselves, or are they too far gone?

In any event….With that kind of political sickness running rampant for decades in this country…The constitutional republic our Founding Fathers envisioned has been transformed, whether or not we wish to admit it.

For how long, is up to us.

Spread this one around. This is a classic:

It seems it’s an entirely different matter when the confiscatory state of our tax system is illustrated to someone who has worked hard to obtain what they have, IN COLLEGE. Many of these kids are the same age as the “occupy” fleabaggers, and many, due to that young age, believe as they do. But, when the lessons is framed in context they’ll understand, they all become ‘rich capitalists’, ay?

Let’s face it…We’ve got an entire year of political “gaming” coming our way, before the 2012 Presidential elections. Some hunger for it, others shy away from it like a 14 yr old girl at her first high school dance.

So – for those who may already be feeling a bit worn out…Here’s a little something non-political, to give your mind a mental rest, and perhaps provoke a bit of Halloween laughter:

PS – We’ll take these “Politi-breaks” every now and then, to keep our readers refreshed and focused.

Enjoy!

(And yes – we know this particular video is lame. But — it’s also hilarious!)

Teacher chocked, women attacked, drug dealers running rampant, journalist’s lives threatened…Must be a Tea Party rally, huh?
Nope…Check again:

Source link: Teacher Choked, Women Attacked at #OccupyOakland: It’s ‘Lord of the Flies’ Among Anarchists, Drug Dealers

Source link: Source: ABC Reporter’s Life Allegedly Threatened at Occupy Oakland; ‘We Shoot White Bitches Like You Around Here’

And I say again: Barack Obama continues to condone, embrace & encourage the “occupy” fleabaggers…